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	<title>Comments on: New fun project: a C++ Web Framework</title>
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	<description>A glimpse at a coder&#039;s troubled mind</description>
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		<title>By: Rizo Isrof</title>
		<link>http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/c/new-fun-project-a-c-web-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>Rizo Isrof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent initiative! Waiting for project advances!</description>
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		<title>By: Mayuresh Kathe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayuresh Kathe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is cool stuff :-)
Keep at it, don&#039;t give up.
If possible, create a mailing list and if you do, do add me in :-)
(will be monitoring your blog).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool stuff <img src='http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Keep at it, don&#8217;t give up.<br />
If possible, create a mailing list and if you do, do add me in <img src='http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(will be monitoring your blog).</p>
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		<title>By: mariano</title>
		<link>http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/c/new-fun-project-a-c-web-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I plan to start updating it very soon, and publish its code in github. Stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I plan to start updating it very soon, and publish its code in github. Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>By: asterisk.net.ru</title>
		<link>http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/c/new-fun-project-a-c-web-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>asterisk.net.ru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello mariano!

Do you have any news or progress in C++ Web Framework (CLAPP) ?
Could you provide a link for downloading?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello mariano!</p>
<p>Do you have any news or progress in C++ Web Framework (CLAPP) ?<br />
Could you provide a link for downloading?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: juicer [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>juicer [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, almost forgot...
What do you think about Felspar&#039;s Frost 4 framework?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, almost forgot&#8230;<br />
What do you think about Felspar&#8217;s Frost 4 framework?</p>
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		<title>By: juicer [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>juicer [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made any progress on this project? I think it&#039;s a great idea! Why not post it on SourceForge and let the community help you build it? :)
Also, have you taken a look at the approach being taken over at puremvc.org?
Lastly, I&#039;d like to know more specifically about why you believe that having to build anything when you change a view is a significant drawback. Is it only really a disadvantage when the site scales up? Even if the build is automated?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made any progress on this project? I think it&#8217;s a great idea! Why not post it on SourceForge and let the community help you build it? <img src='http://marianoiglesias.com.ar/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Also, have you taken a look at the approach being taken over at puremvc.org?<br />
Lastly, I&#8217;d like to know more specifically about why you believe that having to build anything when you change a view is a significant drawback. Is it only really a disadvantage when the site scales up? Even if the build is automated?</p>
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		<title>By: mariano.iglesias [Member]</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariano.iglesias [Member]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@artyom: Ok, we are really NOT understanding each other. I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s done on other frameworks or not. I DONT like the fact that you have to build EVEN A SMALL part of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s just me. There are TONS of frameworks that DONT require you to re build ANYTHING when you change a view. Period. That&#039;s what I&#039;m working for.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@artyom: Ok, we are really NOT understanding each other. I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s done on other frameworks or not. I DONT like the fact that you have to build EVEN A SMALL part of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just me. There are TONS of frameworks that DONT require you to re build ANYTHING when you change a view. Period. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m working for.</p>
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		<title>By: artyom [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>artyom [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; I have to recompile the project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is not correct, you need only to build&lt;br /&gt;
a **very small** part of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Just that I don&#039;t think it makes much sense to build a view, be it as a DLL that is dinamically loaded&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually such things are already done in Asp.Net and&lt;br /&gt;
in Java Servlets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is defenatly not &quot;one major design flaw&quot;, this is something common to many frameworks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean</p>
<p>> I have to recompile the project</p>
<p>Is not correct, you need only to build<br />
a **very small** part of it.</p>
<p>> Just that I don&#8217;t think it makes much sense to build a view, be it as a DLL that is dinamically loaded</p>
<p>
Actually such things are already done in Asp.Net and<br />
in Java Servlets.</p>
<p>It is defenatly not &#8220;one major design flaw&#8221;, this is something common to many frameworks.</p>
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		<title>By: mariano.iglesias [Member]</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariano.iglesias [Member]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@artyom: I don&#039;t get it. You say not exactly but you are explaining how you have to rebuild the views. I wasn&#039;t talking about how fast it is to build a view. You still have to build it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not saying: &quot;I&#039;m right, you are wrong&quot;. Just that I don&#039;t think it makes much sense to build a view, be it as a DLL that is dinamically loaded, or anything else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@artyom: I don&#8217;t get it. You say not exactly but you are explaining how you have to rebuild the views. I wasn&#8217;t talking about how fast it is to build a view. You still have to build it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying: &#8220;I&#8217;m right, you are wrong&#8221;. Just that I don&#8217;t think it makes much sense to build a view, be it as a DLL that is dinamically loaded, or anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: artyom [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>artyom [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; However, in my opinion, it has one&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; major design flaw: Views are compiled.&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; That for me is a huge no-go. Thinking&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; that if my designers need to change a&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; view I have to recompile the project?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not correct, see http://cppcms.sourceforge.net/wikipp/en/page/ref_templates_bld&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The views are generally compiled to shared objects or dll and dynamically loaded. Thus if you change view you only need to do a very short build of shared object.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, full rebuild of wiki++ view takes 3.5 seconds and 6 seconds for fully optimized release version.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, it is not as bad as you think, in fact, build times are similar to thous of JSP or Asp.Net views.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> However, in my opinion, it has one<br />
> major design flaw: Views are compiled.<br />
> That for me is a huge no-go. Thinking<br />
> that if my designers need to change a<br />
> view I have to recompile the project?</p>
<p>Not correct, see <a href="http://cppcms.sourceforge.net/wikipp/en/page/ref_templates_bld" rel="nofollow">http://cppcms.sourceforge.net/wikipp/en/page/ref_templates_bld</a></p>
<p>The views are generally compiled to shared objects or dll and dynamically loaded. Thus if you change view you only need to do a very short build of shared object.</p>
<p>For example, full rebuild of wiki++ view takes 3.5 seconds and 6 seconds for fully optimized release version.</p>
<p>So, it is not as bad as you think, in fact, build times are similar to thous of JSP or Asp.Net views.</p>
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